Saturday, November 27, 2010

Q&A#4

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein

I believe this is true of Christianity.

Discuss?

8 comments:

  1. So, laws and immovable morals do not exist outside their contexts..

    What would the context be?

    If you can expand on your statement at all, I'd appreciate it. I want to make sure I grasp what it means.

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  3. I believe Laws and immovable Morals are non-existent except outside it's context.

    Morals are all relative to the environment they are created in.

    So morals are unnecessary outside it's contexts.

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  4. Could someone argue then that within the context of the earth, and the existence of..humanity, that there are immovable morals?
    Or are you saying morals are created within smaller contexts..such as, say a time period?

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  5. The way I consider it is easiest to define through example. I've always considered something like gay/lesbian marriage to be perfectly legitimate in terms of legalization. In fact, that it was ever even a debate is troublesome for me. I don't believe it's the government's right, or our right as citizens, to determine what is allowable for another person's behavior when it doesn't affect our own.

    Don't get me wrong, you can have all the moral issues with whatever the problem is, but provided they aren't doing anyone else any harm, what grounds do you legitimately have to tell them it's unacceptable? What stake do you even have in it?

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  6. In other words, the government (and thereby, laws) shouldn't be an effort to impose moral right and wrong, but rather a system for protecting the rights of others.
    If I'm not causing them a problem, why can't I do it? You can't say that I'm not allowed to swing on a swingset because you have deemed it unacceptable.

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  7. Yep I totally understand where you're coming from Andy and agree with you.

    But is that what you're getting at Abram? I have an idea of where this is going in my mind but I'm not sure if its what you were intending.

    I think I disagree with your second statement. Morals are not relative to the environment they are created in. I think they are to a degree inherent rather than 'created'. I believe there is a hard and fast morality. God is perfect and just - we act, and are in our very being in opposition to this?

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  8. I have a belief of morality (right vs. wrong) in terms of signposts of how far you have gone beyond an ideal; rather than a distinct entity of write and wrong in it's own.

    i. The secularist ideal is a community of people all living for the best freedoms and comforts for themselves as well as others.
    ii. The christian ideal is of love/life/God.

    So morality are signposts for us to understand how far we have deviated from that perfect original concept. I think this makes the everything make more sense.

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